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Continued from Part 6 Continue with me in part 7, my final part, of my genetic genealogy journey of a temporary brick wall for yet another new DNA mystery match that had just showed up, when I already know all the descendants in that line! I left off last, in Genealogy Brick Wall: Another New DNA Mystery Match-Part 6, with it being narrowed down even further. I had ended up with my match having a higher possibility of being my grandfather’s great grandchild or my great uncle’s great grandchild. Let’s check my uncle’s cMs matched to the mystery match for another perspective. If I use the same method I used on my own cMs to narrow down the possible relations that I used in Genealogy Brick Wall: Another New DNA Mystery Match-Part 5 and Genealogy Brick Wall: Another New DNA Mystery Match-Part 6, by eliminating what is not practical against my Uncle’s centimorgans matched to him, the possibilities are: 1c2r, 1c1r, ½ great- nephew. The histogram findings in the DNA Painter Shared cM Tool are: 1c2r (highest on histograms) ...his uncle’s (aka my great uncle) great grandchild??? Even though this wasn’t necessary, this narrowed it down even more for me! It always helps by getting rid of another generation to deal with. 😉 I now have one possible relationship to work with! In summary, I am now confident that my match is my 2c1r and my uncle’s 1c2r (my great uncle’s/my uncle’s uncle’s great-great grandchild). There are also no other unknown/mystery matches matched to my mystery match as of yet. Even though we would have the same shared matches of course, it is easier to see them from his shared matches with me, as opposed to my thousands of shared matches to that line, since he is only half related to that line. Oh my gosh, I finally got a working number for my matches mom, near the end of this second day on this! I’m going to call now and get back to you all! I called my match’s mom and spoke to her for a while. I made sure to ask pertinent questions to see which of my match’s 4 grandparents could be my great uncle’s child. I asked if she had tested, and she said she had. Since his mom said she had tested, and I know I am not a match to her, her 2 lines/my match’s 2 maternal grandparents are out. That now leaves me with 2 possible children for my great uncle, one of either of my match’s paternal grandparents. I asked if her husband looked more like his father or his mother, and she stated that he looked just like his father; my matches father does not really resemble my great uncle or our family. I was hoping to get a photo of her husband’s parents (my match’s paternal grandparents and one being the probable child of my great uncle), but she said she didn’t have access to any pictures right now, as she had just moved. Hmmmmmmmm, my match’s paternal grandmother’s mother was in Sedgwick County, KS at the time her daughter (my match’s paternal grandmother) was born in 1930. My great uncle was also in Sedgwick County, KS at that time. My match’s paternal grandmother’s mother was also married only a little less than 5 months before the birth of her daughter (my match’s paternal grandmother). My match’s paternal grandfather’s mother was in Cloud County, KS, just four counties over, at the time her son (my match’s paternal grandfather) was born. She had just married her husband within the year of her son’s birth; although, I have not gotten their marriage record yet. It’s very interesting that her son, my match’s paternal grandfather, is named Donald, the same name as my great uncle. I also finally got a working number for my match’s uncle, and I called. I was hoping for a photo of his parents, but he had asked how he was supposed to do that, more in a not willing sort of way. He seemed a little upset with the information presented to him, but I got the feeling that he wasn’t necessarily surprised. He then said he wanted to end the conversation and was not interested in it anymore. I am hoping that one day I can get a photo of my match’s paternal grandparents, along with his paternal grandfather’s mother’s marriage record, not that a child can’t come about while married to someone else. 😉 I am also hoping that my match will be willing to speak to me about his matches, and let me view them, as I would be able to confirm it by HIS shared matches. His mother said she would give him my number, not to mention I left him a message on Ancestry (that has been viewed) and Facebook, with no response. ☹ Well, here it is, after discovering my match 2 days ago: In summary, I find it very interesting that my match’s paternal grandfather was named Donald, the same name as that of my great uncle, but I strongly believe his paternal grandmother is my great uncle’s child. She was born in the exact area where my great uncle was at the time, and her mother didn’t marry until she was almost 5 months pregnant with her. I will not know for certain until I can compare pictures, and until my match is willing to respond to me and hopefully lets me view his matches. 😊 To follow this story from the beginning, you can find the links below: Genealogy Brick Wall: Another New DNA Mystery Match-Part 1 Genealogy Brick Wall: Another New DNA Mystery Match-Part 2 Genealogy Brick Wall: Another New DNA Mystery Match-Part 3 Genealogy Brick Wall: Another New DNA Mystery Match-Part 4 Genealogy Brick Wall: Another New DNA Mystery Match-Part 5 Genealogy Brick Wall: Another New DNA Mystery Match-Part 6 Find more research tips under the category Genealogy Research Tips, brick wall tips under the Genealogy Brick Wall Cases category, and DNA tips under the DNA Simplified category. I'd love to read your comments! My older site theme does not support the "Leave a Reply" field labels; if you'd like to leave a comment on a blog, the fields are: Name, Email, Site (if you'd like), and Comment, the standard fields 😉 ←Back to Genealogy Research Tips Page This post is a participant in the Genealogy Blog Party! Other related genealogy brick wall research cases that may be of interest: Going into Ancestry the other day, I noticed some new, exciting features that weren’t there last week! They added a fresh, new look to everything, and they are trying out a new photo editor tool! Ancestry’s New Look Updates: The new look has a more modern look and feel, that I’m not sure how I feel about yet. I love the background color; I feel that it’s really pleasing to the eyes and is a great added feature! Sadly, I'm not very keen on the teardrop shaped thumbnails of my ancestors in the pedigree or family views, nor the ancestor profiles; I feel they are too small, and I particularly don’t like the teardrop shape. I love the soft, rounded edges of the pedigree and family view ancestor blocks though! I feel that the male and female thumbnails are a little too modern for me. In my opinion, when it comes to my ancestors, I would like it to reflect the past more. I also liked the leaf hint symbols as they were before. So, in short, I love the new colors and soft, rounded edges, but not I'm not quite on board with the other new updates to the look. 😉 Ancestry’s New Photo Editor: Still in BETA mode, Ancestry.com is making their new photo editor available to a limited number of customers. You can select a photo from the gallery in your tree to colorize, restore, and enhance. Then you can click the feedback button to let them know what you think! The new photo tool has it’s ups and downs, just as MyHeritage did at the beginning. Of course, it’s in Beta mode, and I’m sure it will be fine tuned again and again in the process. I tried it out on many photos thus far, and some are better than others, while some come out worse. There are three options: colorize, restore, and enhance. As I tested many photos in the new tool, I seemed to find that you can only use one feature at a time, such as color only, not color and enhance together. Some of my photos that could not be enhanced in MyHeritage, because faces couldn’t be detected, were able to be edited here. Some of the photos were colorized differently each time I edited the same photo, and some drastically different. Some of the photos colorized in the other modes, and sometimes there was no difference between the modes. Some of my paper copies, previously enhanced, or manipulated photos, enhanced much better here than in MyHeritage, while many of the digital copies from originals are enhanced much better in MyHeritage. This will be another fantatstic genealogy resource that you can use for your family history, once they fine tune it! I'm not sure if this feature will be considerd an extra premium product to use or if it will be included in the prices they have now; we'll just have to wait and see! Check out the new look, and if you're lucky enough to have been selected to try this new BETA feature, then have some fun and go into Ancestry.com and give it a try now! 😊 Learn about more resources you can use in your family history research under the Genealogy Resources category! I'd love to read your thoughts on these new features! My older site theme does not support the "Leave a Reply" field labels; if you'd like to leave a comment on a blog, the fields are: Name, Email, Site (if you'd like), and Comment, the standard fields 😉 This post is a participant in the Genealogy Blog Party! Other related genealogy resources from Ancestry.com that may be of interest: Genealogy Brick Wall: Another New DNA Mystery Match-Part 6Continued from Part 5 My genetic genealogy journey of a temporary genealogy brick wall for yet another new DNA mystery match relative that had just showed up, when I already know all the descendants in that line, continues with Part 6. While still trying to get working numbers for my match and his mom, I left off last in Genealogy Brick Wall: Another New DNA Mystery Match-Part 5 by narrowing down my possible match relationships in DNA Painter, using deductive reasoning. I used the DNA Painter Shared cM Tool and their relationship histogram charts. Compare Relationships against Dates and Places, Again: Now it’s time to narrow down my deductions even more, by comparing the possible relationships left against dates and places!
I am going to eliminate his sisters, as it would have been obvious if they were pregnant. By building my own quick tree for my match's lines, where I only had his father and "Private" mother to go off of, which I talked about in Genealogy Brick Wall: Another New DNA Mystery Match-Part 3 and Genealogy Brick Wall: Another New DNA Mystery Match-Part 4, I had found the following:
This info is based off no one being adopted, etc. No matter what, he (my mystery match) is descended from my grandfather or his sibling, most likely his brother… More Centimorgan Relationship Elimination: Now I just need to work with the last possible centimorgan relationships that I had narrowed it down to, with my new findings. In Genealogy Brick Wall: Another New DNA Mystery Match-Part 5, I had narrowed it down to 2c, ½ 1c1r, 2c1r (and a possible 1c2r from the histograms in the DNA Painter Shared cM Tool).
So, in short, I am now left with my match having a higher possibly of being my grandfather’s great grandchild, or my great uncle’s great grandchild. Stay tuned for more in Part 7 where I wrap things up, and see how my mystery match is related! 😊 Interactive Questions: Are you making sure to compare your DNA match relationships against dates and places to help break down brick walls? Are you weeding out as many of those centimorgan relationships that you can? Let me know in the comments below! Update, December 25, 2021: Part 7, the final part in this solving a DNA mystery match series, is now here!: Genealogy Brick wall: Another New DNA Mystery Match-Part 7 Follow This Story from the Beginning: Genealogy Brick Wall: Another New DNA Mystery Match-Part 1 More DNA and Genealogy Research Tips and Resources: Find more research tips under the Genealogy Research Tips category, brick wall tips under the Genealogy Brick Wall Cases category, and DNA/genetic genealogy tips under the DNA Simplified category. You can also find some DNA research resources, to help you in your research, on my dedicated Genealogy Resources page. Other related genealogy brick wall research cases that may be of interest: Oh my gosh, registration for RootsTech Connect 2022 opened last week!
Don't forget to sign up at rootstech.org for the world's largest FREE family history and genealogy event! It will once again be virtual this year. Always held in Salt Lake City, last year’s event was their first virtual conference, due to Covid, and boy, did their first virtual event churn out more than imagined! Connect with your family, learn about family and cultural traditions, learn from experts in the field with over 1,500 sessions/classes, listen to super inspiring keynote speakers (I’m anxious to see how they top last year’s speakers!), join the Expo Hall that showcases companies from around the world (they also offer freebies and discounts!), participate in activities for all (such as cooking and activities for the kiddos!), chat with experts, get 1-on-1 help, find relatives that are also attending, and so much more! You also get to save and access your classes for an entire year, by saving them in your RootsTech Playlist and/or on YouTube! Connect with your family, explore your heritage, and meet your relatives out there, by signing up for this FREE March 3-5 family history event now! I hope to see you there! See why they decided to go virtual again this year in Rootstech Connect 2022: The Largest Family History Event FREE Again! and in the FamilySearch Blog post RootsTech Connect Coming Back in 2022, and follow more on the RootsTech 2022 Genealogy Conference in Genealogy Events, along with Genealogy Resources. I'd love to read your comments on RootsTech being FREE and virtual again! P.S... My older site theme does not support the "Leave a Reply" field labels; if you'd like to leave a comment on a blog, the fields are : Name, Email, Site (if you'd like), and Comment, the standard fields 😉 |
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