 Genealogy Brick Wall: Another New DNA Mystery Match-Part 5 Genealogy Brick Wall: Another New DNA Mystery Match-Part 5Continued from Part 4 Continue with me on my genetic genealogy journey of a temporary brick wall for yet another new DNA mystery match that had just showed up when I already know all the descendants in that line, from Genealogy Brick Wall: Another New DNA Mystery Match-Part 4! I left off last by working a bit on his parents’ lines just to gather the info I needed to see which of the lines was the connection, while waiting on working numbers, then comparing yearbook photos of his parents and their siblings to my grandfather and his siblings, to no avail. I had worked a total of two hours on my case already and decided to stop and continue the next day. Good morning! Okay, time to get going on this and try to finish up. I’m going to need a pumpkin chai latte for this! Regular tea just won’t cut it this morning; I need something special to help me focus better and get this figured out! 😉 More Centimorgan Relationship Elimination: Back to the Centimorgan relationships: I’ve got to make sure I take out every possible matched centimorgan relationship in DNA Painter that is not directly descended from my grandfather or one of his siblings because my match has matches to my grandfather’s paternal and maternal lines; therefore, he has to be descended from my grandfather or one of his siblings. Anything above my grandfather’s generation is now out, otherwise my DNA match would only be matched with my grandfather’s paternal line matches, or my grandfather’s maternal line matches, not both. All the possible match relationships of my match being descended from a possible half sibling to my grandfather are also out, for same reason as above.  After discovering my match’s and parents’ ages, anything above my generation is also out. I now just need to focus on my match being in my generation and one generation below, with a smaller possibility of being 2 generations below. I am now left with: ½ 1c, ½ 1c1r, ½ 1 c2r, 1c1r, 1c2r, 2c, 2c1r, and 2c2r (½ g niece/nephew not possible).  If I also go with the higher probable percentages, then I only have 2c, ½ 1c1r, 1c2r, 2c1r, ½ 1c2r left to work with.  If I focus on my generation and the generation below only (going off my match’s and his parents' ages), then I’m left only with 2c, ½ 1c1r, 2c1r. This narrows it down significantly.  If I check those relationships with the histograms in the DNA Painter Shared cM Tool, there is more of a chance of my match being my 2c, ½ 1c1r (and 1c2r if I go as far as another generation below), but this is just a guide only.
Now I need to work with these findings, along with dates and places of my grandfather and his siblings, compared against the same information needed from my match’s lines. Wow, who knew what a special pumpkin chai latte could accomplish! 😉 Stay tuned for more in Part 6 where I get down to the nitty gritty, and see what I deduce by these comparisons! 😊 Interactive Questions: Have you used DNA Painter Shared cM Tool in your DNA research to help break down brick walls? Let me know in the comments below! Update, December 12, 2021: Part 6 is now here!: Genealogy Brick wall: Another New DNA Mystery Match-Part 6 Follow This Story from the Beginning: Genealogy Brick Wall: Another New DNA Mystery Match-Part 1 More DNA and Genealogy Research Tips and Resources: Find more research tips under the Genealogy Research Tips category, brick wall tips under the Genealogy Brick Wall Cases category, and DNA/genetic genealogy tips under the DNA Simplified category. You can also find some DNA research resources, to help you in your research, on my dedicated Genealogy Resources page. Below you'll find some other genealogy brick wall research cases that may be of interest:
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Jamboree is the largest "single society" conference in the U.S. and draws family historians and professional genealogists from all over the world! The 52nd Jamboree conference, “Preserving Your Tales” will be held on Friday and Saturday, August 26-27, 2022, and the 9th Genetic Genealogy conference, “Solving Your DNA Puzzles” will be held on Friday and Saturday August 19-20, 2022. There will also be FREE happenings Monday-Wednesday August 22-24 that you won’t want to miss out on! Usually held yearly at the Burbank Marriott in Burbank, California, this year's conferences will be held virtually. Check back soon, registration starts March 7th! You can also check back periodically on the official Southern California Genealogical Society’s Jamboree website, here. Follow this event and more genealogy events under the Genealogy Events category. P.S... My older site theme does not support the "Leave a Reply" field labels; if you'd like to leave a comment on a blog, the fields are: Name, Email, Site (if you'd like), and Comment, the standard fields 😉  Genealogy Brick Wall: Another New DNA Mystery Match-Part 4 Genealogy Brick Wall: Another New DNA Mystery Match-Part 4Continued from Part 3 This is the continuing story, continued from Genealogy Brick Wall: Another New DNA Mystery Match-Part 3, of my temporary genealogy brick wall for yet another new DNA mystery match that had just showed up. I call it a temporary brick wall because I have not really exhausted all of my resources, but I had found all the known descendants for those lines (not to mention that I know of that generation’s descendants very well), and he is not one of them. So, a recap of my last steps:
Compare Geographical Areas: Hmmmmmmm, I worked back on his father’s (the only name in his tree) and mother’s (found in public record databases as an associate to his father) lines just to gather only the info needed to solve this, and I am still confused. Usually from this point, I just need to compare the areas of where the match’s lines were from, with my line. His father’s line was in Wichita, Kansas, just as my Steinmans were for a while, and Long Beach, California, just as my Steinmans were for a while! That’s great; I found the connection! Wait, what??!! Not! His mother’s line was in San Antonio/South Gate, Norwalk, Long Beach, and Downey, California, just as my Steinman line! Ugh, back to square one! I need more tea! Wake up! Wake up! Compare Photos: Time to quickly look up some public yearbook pics of some of his family members I had found by fanning out, and try to see if there are any resemblances, to narrow it down to either his mother’s or his father’s side. My grandfather and his siblings below...
My match's father and his siblings below...Hmmmmmm, I don't see much of a resemblance.
My match's mother and some of her siblings below...Hmmmmmm, I see no resemblance.
I have worked a total of 2 hours on this mystery thus far: it’s time to stop because it’s late, my tea is no longer helping, and I need a fresh mind! Stay tuned for more in Part 5 where I’ll narrow down the relationships according to the centimorgans even more by using more deductive reasoning! 😊 Interactive Questions: Have you compared photos in your research to help break down brick walls? Have you sought out photos for your matches in yearbooks, public records or social media? Let me know in the comments below! Update, November 28, 2021: Part 5 is now here!: Genealogy Brick wall: Another New DNA Mystery Match-Part 5 Follow This Story from the Beginning: Genealogy Brick Wall: Another New DNA Mystery Match- Part 1 More DNA and Genealogy Research Tips and Resources: Find more research tips under the Genealogy Research Tips category, brick wall tips under the Genealogy Brick Wall Cases category, and DNA/genetic genealogy tips under the DNA Simplified category. You can also find some DNA research resources, to help you in your research, on my dedicated Genealogy Resources page. Below you'll find some other genealogy brick wall research cases that may be of interest:
 Genealogy Brick Wall: Another New DNA Mystery Match-Part 3 Genealogy Brick Wall: Another New DNA Mystery Match-Part 3Continued from Part 2 Continue with me in my story, from Genealogy Brick Wall: Another New DNA Mystery Match-Part 2, of my temporary genealogy brick wall for yet another new DNA mystery match that had just showed up. I call it a temporary brick wall because I have not really exhausted all of my resources, but I had found all the known descendants for those lines (not to mention that I know of that generation’s descendants very well), and he is not one of them. So, a recap of my last steps:
Fan Out: None of the numbers in any of the public record databases, for my match, were working numbers. Time to fan out! 😊 By searching through public records and seeing other associates and relatives, and their ages, I found that my match’s father’s first wife was not his mother. There was no other record showing that his father and mother were married/ a couple, except being associated in public records, and her Facebook (which I trolled 😉).
I was able to search out his mother’s maiden name in public records. I then added her as his mother to my tree I had built for them, and then added a couple of children to her and his father (one male, one female), once again with no first names or any other info added for the children. I was able to find just one child born to them, a daughter. I then had thought for a moment that maybe she was his stepmother, and that’s why she was associated with him on all his records. Through more Google digging, I had realized that the child I had found born to them was the same person; he had changed gender. I had found a college bio online for their daughter, and in looking at the photo had realized it was my match, who had just recently changed his name and gender. I then added his name in quotations to the daughter I had originally found for them. Any other records I would now look up, would be searched with both names. So far, all his mother’s numbers were non-working as well. In the meantime, while I was trying to get a working number, I decided to work on his mother’s and father’s lines on my tree I made for them, to see what DNA relationships would fit, based off ages and places. Stay tuned for more in Part 4 to see what I had discovered! 😊 Interactive Questions: Have you fanned out in your research to help break down brick walls? Have you sought out your matches in public records or social media? Let me know in the comments below! Update, Novemeber 14, 2021: Part 4 is now here!: Genealogy Brick wall: Another New DNA Mystery Match-Part 4 Follow This Story from the Beginning: Genealogy Brick Wall: Another New DNA Mystery Match- Part 1 More DNA and Genealogy Research Tips and Resources: Find more research tips under the Genealogy Research Tips category, brick wall tips under the Genealogy Brick Wall Cases category, and DNA/genetic genealogy tips under the DNA Simplified category. You can also find some DNA research resources, to help you in your research, on my dedicated Genealogy Resources page. Below you'll find some other genealogy brick wall research cases that may be of interest:
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